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Thomas Boerkel

Regarding "typical business application":

What about a CRUD for customers and a list of customers to choose from?

Jim Weaver

"Can you provide any links to JavaFX-based applications for data entry or anything that looks like a typical business application? Animation is nice, but I'm trying to understand how JavaFX competes with Flex and Silverlight for building databound data-entry forms, tables, graphs. Thanks."

Steve,
I couldn't agree with you more, and I think that enterprise apps that have an iPhone look and feel will be a sweet spot for JavaFX. I am in the process of designing an example like this for the blog and an upcoming book. Do you have any ideas that would fit your criteria and be fun for the reader?

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Jim Weaver

Steve Muench

Can you provide any links to JavaFX-based applications for data entry or anything that looks like a typical business application? Animation is nice, but I'm trying to understand how JavaFX competes with Flex and Silverlight for building databound data-entry forms, tables, graphs. Thanks.

airfoil

Just read the comments from the article I linked to ( http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/11/25/more-on-javafx-launch-linux-out-fx-mobile-in/ )and it appears that OS X will be supported. Sorry for the noise...

airfoil

"AFAIK, JavaFX SDK will be supported on Windows and Mac on launch."

Thanks Jim. I certainly hope this is true. Simon Brocklehurst seems to have information that says otherwise:

http://www.psynixis.com/blog/2008/11/25/more-on-javafx-launch-linux-out-fx-mobile-in/

Jim Weaver

"what do use for serialising into and out of JSON?"

I use JSON to human readable data back from the server, not serialized Java objects if that what you mean.

Thanks,
Jim Weaver

Jim Weaver

"what do use for serialising into and out of JSON?"

I've been using JSON to carry text data back from a web service, not to serialize Java objects, if that's what you mean.

Thanks,
Jim Weaver

Jim Weaver

"I've read that the 1.0 release will be Windows only at launch."

AFAIK, JavaFX SDK will be supported on Windows and Mac on launch.

Thanks,
Jim Weaver

airfoil

I've read that the 1.0 release will be Windows only at launch. That would be VERY disappointing if that were true. I can kind of understand the reasoning, but the lack of a Mac version just seems weak.

I've been investigating a fair number of options (Flex, Mono, blahblahblah) for my next project and JavaFX seemed very intriguing. Played with the Preview SDK a bit and liked what I saw. It's a nice little language. I'm not a Java guy, but I like what Sun is trying to accomplish with JavaFX.

I'd really like to know what the plans are concerning a Mac version of the SDK as that could be a major factor in deciding which way to go for my next project.

rperfect

Hi Jim, - what do use for serialising into and out of JSON? I've been looking at XStream but it seems that it might have some issues around unsigned Applets. I'm looking for something small and lightweight to use in unsigned Applets.

Marc de Kwant

I have seen the previews of the 1.0 release and can not wait to get going. Too bad Sun did not make the binding to java objects more easier the way Flex does it. But this does not deter me to start coding cool looking UI's for customers.

Jim Weaver

"Please say you are taking Netbeans out of the download for JavaFX."

Hi Jason,
I believe that the JavaFX SDK will be available with or without the NetBeans IDE. The current technical preview is.

Thanks,
Jim Weaver

Jason

Please say you are taking Netbeans out of the download for JavaFX. I want freedom of choice on IDE's and I don't want to be stuck in the mediocrity of NetCrap!

Tom

Except that it won't work on my PowerPC Mac Mini, right? Maybe too old? But Firefox 3, Flash 10, and Mono 2 all work fine.

codecraig

Should be interesting to see what happens. Although I wonder how Sun is going to treat Swing after this. They've already dropped support for SwingX and possibly other things. Even you have mentioned that JavaFX prefers node-based UI's, and we should "think less about Swing", I have the sense Sun is thinking this way to.

Hopefully they don't abandon Swing completely, as there are countless developers who have spent hours and hours working with Swing and committing themselves to it. On the other hand, I am looking forward to a 1.0 release and hopefully some good reading material to follow so I can check out the party ( as right now I am in the Flex camp ).

Thanks!

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